Former President of the Chamber Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., she was lambasted as an “elite” during a recent Oxford Union debate, where she argued that populism in the United States is a threat to democracy.
Pelosi – a self-described “devout” Catholic. – said during the April 25 debate that certain Americans, whom he considered “poor souls looking for some answers,” refuse to accept the answers Democrats give them on particular issues because of their beliefs about “guns, gays, [and] Ten.”
Challenging Pelosi's position on the populism debate, Winston Marshalla musician formerly of Mumford and Sons who now hosts the 'Marshall Matters' podcast for The Spectator, spoke out against the Oxford Union Motion that “This House believes that populism is a threat to democracy”.
The famous UK university's Oxford Union is considered a champion of free speech and has hosted events with numerous US politicians in the past, including former Republican House Speakers Newt Gingrich and Kevin McCarthy.
Marshall argued in the April 25 debate that the meaning of the word “populist” has been changed by “elites.” [who] they have failed” to align with their own narrative.
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“'Populism' has become a word used synonymously with 'racist.' We've heard 'ethnonationalist,' we've got 'mustache,' we've got 'hillbilly,' 'redneck,' we've got 'deplorable,'” Marshall said. Pelosi had argued in his statements that contemporary American populism currently had an ethno-nationalist character.
“The elites use it to show their contempt for ordinary people,” Marshall said.
Marshall argued that the change in meaning of the word “populist”.“ is “a recent change” and pointed to a 2016 speech by then-President Barack Obama, who said he was “outraged at the idea of Trump calling himself a populist.”
“If anything, Obama made the case that he was the populist. If anything, Obama made the case that Bernie was the populist,” he said. “Something funny happens. If you look at Obama's speeches after that point, more and more recently, he uses the word 'populist' interchangeably with 'strongman,' 'authoritarian.' The word changes meaning, it becomes a negative, an insult.
Highlighting the Riots in the Capitol on January 6, 2021, which he believed was “a dark day for America, indeed,” Marshall said, “I'm sure Congresswoman Pelosi will agree that the entire month of June 2020, when the federal court in Portland, Oregon was under siege and insurrection by radical progressives, those were also dark days for America.”
At the time, Pelosi raised her hand and said, “There's no equivalence there … It's not like what happened on January 6, which was an insurrection incited by the president of the United States.”
“My point, though, is that all political movements are susceptible to violence and indeed to insurrection,” Marshall said. “Populism is not a threat to democracy. Populism is democracy. And why else have universal suffrage if not to keep the elites in check?”
Marshall said he was “more surprised” that Pelosi was arguing for the motion because he thought “the left was supposed to be anti-elite” and that “the left was supposed to be anti -establishment”.
“Today, especially in America, the globalist left has become the establishment,” he continued. “I guess if Mrs. Pelosi had taken that side of the argument, she would be arguing out of a job.
Marshall went on to state that “populism is the voice of the voiceless” and that “the real threat to democracy is from elites”.
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“Now, don't get me wrong, we need elites. If President Biden has shown us anything, we need somebody to run countries,” he said. “When the president has severe dementia, not only America collapses, the whole world burns.”
Marshal shifted his focus to examining elites, saying he believes Trump should have accepted the results of the 2020 presidential election.
“That's the way it should be Hillary in 2016so should Brussels and Westminster in 2016, and so should Congresswoman Pelosi instead of saying the 2016 election was, quote, “hijacked.”
“It was,” Pelosi interjected, prompting laughter from the audience.
“That doesn't mean we don't accept the results,” he added.
During his speech in opposition to the motion, Marshall also took aim at social media companies that suspended Trump from their platforms after the Jan. 6 Capitol protests and the conventional media.
“The mainstream media elites are part of a class that not only despises populism, they despise the people. If the Democrats had put half their energy into serving the people, Trump wouldn't even have a opportunity in 2024… Power for four years, from the fabricated Steele Dossier to trying to get him off the ballot in both Maine and Colorado, the Democrats are the anti-Democrat party,” he said.
“Populism is not a threat to democracy. But I'll tell you what it is: it's the elites ordering social media to censor political opponents,” Marshall said. “… It's Brussels, DC, Westiminster, the mainstream media, big tech, big pharma, corporate collusion and Davos cronies.”
Speaking before Marshall, Pelosi said: “Democracy is the rule of law, democracy is free and fair elections, democracy is about an independent judiciary, it's about freedom of the press to have transparency and hold elected officials accountable to the people.”
“It's all about that, and that's what the populist regime in Washington, DC is against,” he added. “Ethno-nationalist populism, as a threat to democracy, is about threatening what they call elites, a free press,” he said. “This is about fighting issues related to free and fair elections, where we have voter suppression to the nth degree under this regime and their resistance to passing the Voting Rights Act, the John Lewis Act , all this”.
At one point, while talking about those who may consider themselves part of the populist movement and/or are “poor souls looking for some answers,” Pelosi said, “We've given them to them, but they're blocked by some of the their views on guns – they have the three Gs, guns, gays, God, that would be a woman's right to choose – and cultural issues cloud some of their reception of an argument they really care about.”
The motion debated by Marshall and Pelosi ultimately received a favorable vote from attendees at the Oxford Union event, 177 to 68.
Source of original article: Pelosi scolded her to her face during Oxford debate after she condemned Americans clouded by 'guns, gays, God'